AS the title says being the antagonist is a waste of time. Its 1.5 vs 4 nothing to make it enjoyable or even equal. Its just 4 vs 1 and the 1 is the exact same as the 1 of the 4, The antagonist would need 300% health and 150% damage to make it anything close to a competition. U can finally get 16 kills and have a 1% hope of winning but then u get 1 shot by the sniper and half your time limit is gone before u revive. Plus it feels like other people have more health in last stand mode than normal. I played as victor and took down the aussie chick in 4-5 seconds but when they are crawling they magically don't die even If I shot them 10 times. The grunts are good for 2 seconds of distraction but then 2 people can just come up and grapple u while you shoot the third.  It seems like no game company ever actually plays their games to test ideas. even if your on a roll Halec can just project onto a high spot and 1 shot you.  Game would be cool for actual multiplayer like 10v10 but antagonist feels like a last minute F@(k it add this in

The loot system is no different from any other game out there that requires a player to  play for a random reward. The difference here is that players can see the drop when it appears. Competing for the drops is a nice added change to a system that  usually rewards you based on chance. Everyone here seems to be salty because they cane see the reward and have to make a decision on if they want to compete for it.  The bottom line is that if you couldnt see the drop and you got nothing you would all be chalking it up to RNG like every other game out there. This wont hurt the game at all, get a mic or keyboard and TALK to your team for rewards. Once you have the BP then you wont be selecting it again so as the game progresses less people will want the reward. How about we not shit all over something new that gives a player choice and let them develop the game.

I agree, there should be an alternate route, once NPCs stack up + an antagonist is spamming the hallway, it's really hard to get back.

Well when game will go live - not very high percentage of people will go to even lurk on forums. People will most likely drop game long before they get to stage when they will might consider consulting forum.

And thats why Antagonist should be kept at bay. Its a wild-card that is not needed to be in game when people are just starting and are yet learning to deal with grappler mobs. Just like in fighting games - being matched vs vastly stronger oponent will result in nothing but frustration - as your ass will be wooped so fast, you will fail to learn anything aside of "fuk diz game".

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Second, you are comparing premades of good players against an antagonist.

Now read post again, beacause it seems like you just read the title and then go respond asap. Especially the part that says:

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But to show how bad things are in this game - let's assume that we are fighting 4y.o. children, who will always lose in 1v1 fight just because they are bad.

And everything after that.

I read your post, and I already said that I don't believe that people who can't beat you because they are bad will beat you in the mission.

You are looking for a hardocre pvp it seems, and I don't think this game is looking for this target, mostly when the only pvp that exist in this game is a 1v4. I wouldn't like a pvp of 4 vs overpowered 1. I played that type of games and I hated them. One of the things that I find different of this game and make it special is that the antagonist is just like you, only playing on the other side.

And I don't think they should buff the antagonist, maybe they could have some control over the minions or something to make the mission harder but without hurting new players, something that would only hurt long games. Something that is not too visual. It's not fun when a game end in 5 min.

And I know that I am not the only one because I saw a video on youtube of 3 players together playing on skype testing this game. They were beated hard by the antagonist in each game, after 30-40 min the streamer girl changed to another game and said she hated the experience because it was so frustrating. Only one of them wanted to test the game a little more and got how the game worked. IMO this game needs a way to make the entry for new palyers much easier if they want that the casual players will play for more than 1 day. 

I saw another video of an antagonist, someone that ended first in ranking admitting that it was way easier to win as antagonist that as a raiders. some of his gameplays where incredible fast, and probably a bad experience for the raiders.