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I'm not understanding the pushback on criticism I'm seeing here. Is it really such an absurd concept to give feedback on a feedback forum?Im not stupid. Take your sarcasm elsewhere
how so?As a game developer you should never design any aspect of your game specifically with trolling and pissing people off in mind because as it turns out when you piss people off on purpose they stop playing your game and giving you money.
This here is important to highlight because it perfectly sums up what the current antagonist system as a whole is, and the type of player that it panders to, and I say currently because if there were separate pvp/pve then it wouldn’t be the case. But as it stands now, contrary to what most developers would do, MS is for some reason catering to toxic trolling and griefing, basically shaping their entire pvp around it.
Alright ill have to take a look at thoseQuoteLastly is the weapon Shy. Did this gun recieve a nerf that I missed or has my time away from the game clouded my memory?5 nerfs since it was put into the game, to be exact.
the Tier change was explained pretty well in patch notes. Lots of threads talking about all these same issues
If you are significantly lower level than the Raiders this will affect a lot. They will have higher forged weapons, higher stats, better cards, etc...i can definitely see where the mission part comes in. Because some mission i play as a raider and im like (this antag has no chance)
If you aren't using certain characters that are good in PvP, or if they are using those characters instead/as well (Alicia with R&R, Doldren, Konstantin with Tolchock, etc...) this will affect the match as well.
Next the MMR. If you're MMR is significantly higher than their group MMR the allied AI will be weaker. If it's significantly lower, the AI will be much stronger.
Finally the mission. Certain missions are harder for antagonist and certain missions are a cake walk. Try queuing for Mind over Matter, White Noise, Fistful of Sand (and focus the old man if you are really mean), etc...
What level are you?oh ik. I just get put up against teams of lvl 200+ people. Basically people who know their stuff lol
What level were they?
What characters are you playing?
What characters are killing you the most?
What is your MMR?
This matters a LOT in PvP in this game.
Scope it out.sorry but what does that have to do with level 1 players going up against them? Thats the main point of the thread which you seemed to miss.
In every game with PVP you will get matches you will lose and matches you will win. If your MMR is high then the game thinks you are very good at the game. If it is low then it thinks that you are not.
Here is the twist.
MMR, high or low, doesn't affect how well you can play the game. It doesn't affect your character's stats. Your MMR can be sky high but it doesn't mean you are skillful or leveled up enough to handle that content.
If your MMR is 20-30% and you are running into level 150+ antagonists then, yeah, that is unfair. But, that doesn't ever happen to me when I am at 20-30% MMR.
If you are at 40-50% MMR and you are running into level 150+ antagonists then, yeah, that is fair. You are telling the game you can handle the bottom 40-50% of players with a reliable chance of victory.
It takes very little effort to get up to 40% MMR and only slightly more effort to get to 50%. Because the MMR increases even when you complete non-PVP content. Even if you are dying left and right and get carried, it will increase if the team wins. This is the biggest problem. Because it takes people who have not acquired enough skill or experience into the higher difficulties.
Since people are egocentric they will tend to believe they got to that MMR fair and square and then are baffled when they are stomped into the ground by a high level antagonist. This happens a lot. The problem is that people fail to grasp the meaning of the MMR system. How it can be manipulated and what it means to have high and low percentages.
Also, I see this a lot and I have to say; level 400 is as meaningless as level 200. All it means is that they played the game a lot which, sure, could mean they are better players but they are still constrained by MMR which will not take into account their player level, at least not in any significant way. Your passive stats max out at level 150 and you get your last Forge level at 199. Someone being level 700000000000 doesn't make them any stronger than a level 199.
My point is no one in this thread has said what MMR and what player level they are so it is impossible to determine if it was unfair or not. But at MMRs above 40% you should be expecting a difficult time ahead, mentor match or not.
Acknowledged yes, but no official plans have been revealed to the community.my thoughts exactly. Now anytime i get a mentor mission i wonder who the antag will be.
It's sad because all they need to do is make mentor matches never have an antag and they go from something players avoid to something players want. It's one of the easiest win-win scenarios ever.
im sure theyll find a way to make it workA little birdie told me today that the most recent patch placed brand new files into the game regarding Alexa in the player section, with a faction code, when she was previously outside of the playable character dataShouldn't MSE canonize her a bit though ? Not disliking her presence , just the possibility of her continuity getting ruined somewhat .
