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dapo36

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Lessen the cost of the new raider!
on: January 11, 2018, 03:22:08 AM
WTF!? Why do they cost so much to acquire? What kind of star wars battle front 2 shit is this?

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Re: Lessen the cost of the new raider!
Reply #1 on: January 18, 2018, 09:28:42 AM
Because how will the game last without locking content (characters=content) behind large grind walls?

Also, it's not so bad if you hyper-focus on gold farming and keep your eyes on a singel character at a time, never spending gold on anything else or getting any character or faction points! Why, if you follow these steps, you can have the current (as of the time of posting this) roster unlocked after farming just shy of a cool 1 MILLION gold! I estimate that will take you only a cool 125 hours, give or take a little. It'll probably take more though, because you can't win every match!  :o

And by the time you finish that, I bet all the other characters will be out by then, and who knows how many hours it'll take to farm them? And doesn't this all sound like game value to me? Everyone knows that people quit playing a competitive co-op multiplayer once they have access to all characters and weapons, so you can rest easy to know that the low cost of this game will keep you playing for hundreds of hours grinding for that sweet, sweet gold. Talk about high value for a low price!  :o

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Re: Lessen the cost of the new raider!
Reply #2 on: January 18, 2018, 09:28:23 PM
Jokes aside, a lot of people actually did quit for a while and continue to between character and campaign releases. I know I personally stopped for a while after Ginebra but before Wardog Fury. So yes, if people get all the content available and it has happened... they might actually stop playing. It's silly but just as true as what I can only imagine is a mocking of the game's current economy. Inevitably, there isn't a single reason people stop playing as some might suggest but different reasons for different people. A combination of not having anything left to earn and being burnt out by simply playing too much can definitely happen. It's my great hope *adds echo* that one day... day... day... there is enough... enough... enough... content... content... content... to end the madness... madness madness!

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Re: Lessen the cost of the new raider!
Reply #3 on: January 24, 2018, 07:18:50 AM
Don't mind me, just beating a dead horse :V

By the logic that having access to all character content will make people stop playing, how has Overwatch become the juggernaut that is is? All characters are available for play as soon as you buy the game and turn it on. New characters added are immediately available to play.

There is still more stuff to gain besides characters. The current gold value of all current characters to date is close to 1 million, which would take over a hundred hours to get. And that's not even all of the characters we will see! The backbone of a game like this is access to different ways to play. Being stuck playing the same 4-8 characters for ages is still crazy.

Also what is there to spend gold on after characters and lore? Blueprints drop so infrequently and are priced correctly that the gold needed to make them is pretty much a non-issue, and lore is cheap too, so characters (which should be fairly easy to access since they add the most variety to the game) are this massive gold sink for no reason


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Re: Lessen the cost of the new raider!
Reply #4 on: January 25, 2018, 05:30:28 AM
To answer your question succinctly, Overwatch is huge because it was made by Blizzard. To slightly elaborate, no way on god's green earth would 'that' game do as well had it 'not' been made by a company as well known and revered. Side note, it also in stark contrast to Raiders of the Broken Planet has the largest and fasting growing 'fan-made' NSFW content ever seen since Frozen. In closing, never ever compare anything to Overwatch because it's a sad mess of an argument to do so.

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Re: Lessen the cost of the new raider!
Reply #5 on: January 25, 2018, 10:00:25 AM
To answer your question succinctly, Overwatch is huge because it was made by Blizzard. To slightly elaborate, no way on god's green earth would 'that' game do as well had it 'not' been made by a company as well known and revered. Side note, it also in stark contrast to Raiders of the Broken Planet has the largest and fasting growing 'fan-made' NSFW content ever seen since Frozen. In closing, never ever compare anything to Overwatch because it's a sad mess of an argument to do so.

It's definitely a relevant counter to your claim that "people will stop playing if they have a variety of characters to pick from! We have to keep their costs high to make players work to play a character!" Your entire post here is moving the goalposts of the argument all over the place.

Claim: Having easy access to different methods of gameplay will not hold interest
Counter-claim: Overwatch gives every character instantly
Your rebuttal: Well Overwatch has porn and Blizzard so the actual gameplay mechanics don't matter

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Oh and I just farmed enough to get Mikah and really not liking her so far..... as others have said, and to go back to the original point of having lower character costs: It's totally awesome to spend tons of hours farming gold just to waste it on something you may not even like because there's no way to try it and it's locked behind a huge paywall.

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Re: Lessen the cost of the new raider!
Reply #6 on: January 27, 2018, 12:27:17 AM
I kind of agree on both opposing sides. Yes, their Raiders are too expensive, they could use a reduction in cost. But, they ARE an indie company and can't afford such options as a large one like Blizzard. They don't have the marketing and they kind of need support to make future content for the game. Again, infie vs giant conglomerate.

I think 60k - 100k should be the cost, it's a little grind but doesn't take that long. Ginebra is insane.

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Re: Lessen the cost of the new raider!
Reply #7 on: January 27, 2018, 12:46:52 AM
But having high gold costs doesn't somehow make the company more money. Are there that many players (or any) actually buying mercury points to unlock raiders? I don't have data, but I assume most people with Ginebra had bought Founders, not spent $80 to unlock that one character. I get that's the con here, to offer a real money option to reduce grind, but I'm not really seeing any support for people going that route, players are often pretty opposed to such mechanics.

60-100 would be fair, tbh. Kuzman was not terrible to unluck, but the length of time it took between getting him and getting Mikah did take a while.... but not unreasonable.

Ginebra is 3 times that cost and thus 3 times the length of time to get, but there's still Hive and June which are also expensive...

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Re: Lessen the cost of the new raider!
Reply #8 on: January 27, 2018, 05:18:54 AM
Unconfirmed rumor that you can Doldren for less but it'll cost you both of Konstanine's legs and one arm... as well as the pinky from the remaining arm. More fake news to come!