[Level9Drow]

When you are on the Hanging by a Thread map and you are facing a really good antag and you are new or are with a bunch of new players please please listen to what I have to say, because it's frustrating watching new players feed.

If you can make it to the third phase, the one where you are indoors and need to overload the 3 generators with Aleph this is what you do if you are getting your buts kicked. STAY IN SPAWN and FARM. It's likely the antag can't take all 4 of you on at once, at least I hope. The elites will come to you and there is NO TIME LIMIT in this phase. When all of you have a few stacks of Aleph, if not 5, then go out and attempt the objective. You will, at the least, be able to load the generators quickly, and at most, be powerful with 5 stack bonuses.

IMPORTANT NOTE: This strategy works for most antagonist characters EXCEPT KUZZMAN! DO NOT TRY THIS TACTIC AGAINST HIM! It is essentially suicide.

Background and reason for this post: I was in a game where we had 2 new players. We were against a really good Hive, but me and another experienced player were able to get us all to the 3rd phase. things started falling apart at this point and I tried to get everyone to camp spawn and farm Aleph. The other experienced player knew what i meant and listened, but the other two didn't listen and kept charging out not understanding that we have all the time in the world and all the aleph will be delivered to us. Leave the generators alone, they're fine being empty for now. We lost because they fed. I couldn't believe we lost when it was so easy to counter the Hive's tactics. Playing against antagonists is aggravating enough as it is... yeesh.

[LordDraco3]

tbh, that part is difficult no matter what, it's just extremely chaotic and gets really hairy. My team sometimes plays that map just for fun with the goal of no deaths, but we are up in the 50's and now almost to 70% difficulty and no deaths just does not happen. It's that part, specifically, where elites are just gonna beat the hell out of you, and as an antag, I like to use elite units to my advantage. They are targets, but also powerful allies if you can feed them a raider or two.

[TheBrentWoody]

There is always the wrong priority punch a moon and get grabbed.

[Level9Drow]

tbh, that part is difficult no matter what, it's just extremely chaotic and gets really hairy. My team sometimes plays that map just for fun with the goal of no deaths, but we are up in the 50's and now almost to 70% difficulty and no deaths just does not happen. It's that part, specifically, where elites are just gonna beat the hell out of you, and as an antag, I like to use elite units to my advantage. They are targets, but also powerful allies if you can feed them a raider or two.

I personally NEVER queue for this map, even though it's a fun map. Nor do I queue for the map of the week. They're antagonists cesspools, but the person I was grouped with was the lead and he chose Hanging by a Thread. But since I was there I had a few things to say about it.

Antagonists always ruin my day, especially when queue times are long and you're trying to farm gold and you lose, but you already knew this.

[TheBrentWoody]

Well, aren't we all glad they're dividing the player base by making it different modes now?  (Ughh..I don't think the population will support this divide unless we get a massive influx of new blood. So everyone start telling people to play this game come April.)

[Level9Drow]

Well, aren't we all glad they're dividing the player base by making it different modes now?  (Ughh..I don't think the population will support this divide unless we get a massive influx of new blood. So everyone start telling people to play this game come April.)

They could make a "soft priority" that "suggests" to the match making what you want. and if it can't find what you want after a certain time it will throw you back in with the rest of the players. This way it would only break up players if it can.

[TheBrentWoody]

They could.