[XenoBladeX-3]

So...
I just lost to an antagonist on a fistful of sand. Shae just 2 shotted the protector and it was game over. Ik thats technically fair but that makes it impossible to complete with an antagonist honestly. This outta be fixed.
All i can say is that i wont be accepting matchs from that mission ever again.

[B30]

This problem has been known for a looong time but was never fixed by MSE.

[XenoBladeX-3]

Well thats unfortunate...

[MSE_TENKA]

Hi! We think that there might be a bug around here. Do you remember what weapon was the Antagonist using?

[XenoBladeX-3]

I didn't get a chance to see it. As soon as we found the protector she shot the shield off and then shot him again and it was over. Took like 7 seconds.

[Deathprize]

Hi MSE TENKA it is any max levelled gun. Particularly bass cases are:

Ayana with malikium
Harec with aura Mortis
Shae with focus kaa 7
Ginebra with javelin
Loaht in beast mode
Lycus with shit happens
Hans with Warm
Schneider with any weapon
Valeria with any weapon
Plus others

Please just try blasting the protector on a match you set up internally to see how fast he dies. There is nothing the team can do about it.

[Tekato]

Inb4 they nerf all the guns because of broken antagonist system.

[JestersShade]

@MSE_Tenka: simple math: a mission can't be balanced with AND without an antagonist, that's why this system is broken and players like me are waiting for an option to turn it off.

In this topic, if the protector has enough shield for average AIs, it will be shot down in 1 or 2 shots with a good antagonist (current state)
Or if the shield could resist it, then the mission without an antagonist would be far too easy for raiders.

The problem is all over the game: you can't be sure of the context of the missions: with/without antagonist + if one, low or high lvl + with beginners (mentor match) with 1-4 players like that, and so on ...

For all this frustration, I've stopped playing the game for now, waiting for an option to turn off antagonist (if I don't play with friends but in public matches) and turn off mentor matches (while I do my dailies).

This game had so much wasted potential, it's a shame ...

[Level9Drow]

I have stopped queueing for that missions as a result of that very Shae.

[XenoBladeX-3]

Yeah the only missions i dont do are this one and the mission where you have to charge the altars

[MSE_TENKA]

Hi guys! We are investigating if the resistance of the Protector doesn't scale properly accordingly to the level of the Raiders and the Antagonist.

We will keep you updated.

[XenoBladeX-3]

Damn. Alright thanks guys. We'll be waiting

[Deathprize]

It's not a scaling issue though. If he dies super quick still because you have a good team it's no different to now, as an antagonist will still be able to kill him in a few shots.

It will alleviate the problem for newer players though which is a step in the right direction.

What do your metrics show for the win rate on this map?

[LordDraco3]

Just wanted to add to that long list of weapons that instant-kill the protector, 1 clip from Cookie will kill him and there is no way to counter it, same as Makilium, and possibly Warm if I had one to test.

But that is a fair list of things that kill the old man in seconds.

[Deathprize]

Yeah warm kills him super quick when upgraded as he just stands still and takes it.

I want to know how the playtesters haven't brought this up as an issue. As every long time player noticed it quite soon. New players notice this quickly too. It's a shame as fistful of sand is one of the best levels.