[ArnoldCat]

GIT
GUD

sorry i can't let this argument pass hahahahaha
Its the mantra of the "Hardcore pvpers"

[Cryptek]

Ok at this point you're not making any sense. What?

GIT GUD is the dark souls mantra of: Attain proficiency, become better at the game, seek mastery, it's a bastardization of the phrase "Get Good".

And since you missed my earlier edit (not your fault) I'll repost it here:

Edit: Along with just handwaving "oh it'll be fine" to the population problem, if you want me to take you seriously say right now:
On an average day how many matches do you play
and then:
how many of those would you opt into PVP?
how many of those would you opt into if PVP didn't give much more than 20-30% increased rewards (because lets be fair, beating an antag isn't hard, hell I proved it IN THIS THREAD, so they aren't going to give you 100-200% increased rewards for PVP)
Every single match that you say you'd opt out of PVP: You robbed an antag of the possibility of playing.

[Level9Drow]

Ok at this point you're not making any sense. What?

GIT GUD is the dark souls mantra of: Attain proficiency, become better at the game, seek mastery, it's a bastardization of the phrase "Get Good".

And since you missed my earlier edit (not your fault) I'll repost it here:

Edit: Along with just handwaving "oh it'll be fine" to the population problem, if you want me to take you seriously say right now:
On an average day how many matches do you play
and then:
how many of those would you opt into PVP?
how many of those would you opt into if PVP didn't give much more than 20-30% increased rewards (because lets be fair, beating an antag isn't hard, hell I proved it IN THIS THREAD, so they aren't going to give you 100-200% increased rewards for PVP)
Every single match that you say you'd opt out of PVP: You robbed an antag of the possibility of playing.

And it comes down to THIS, a troll, juvenile, idiot mantra..."git gud". I knew I had too much faith in you. You're a fraud and an enabler of misery and griefing. Nothing you say at this point has any mote of credibility from here on. You're brotard mantra made that clear enough.

The rest of the community should move on past you, ignore you, report you, and continue to vie for the game to improve for more options that increase viability, progress and fun gameplay, not argue with someone who doesn't have any interest in making the game better. just someone who wants to have his thirst for greifing quenched and a regular supply of low level unwilling sheep to get fed.

You're the enemy. Nothing more. Just another PvP griefer, the worst kinds. There's nothing we need to hear from you anymore. Going back and forth with such a person is beneath those who care about the game and a waste of time.

[Cryptek]

You're the enemy. Nothing more. Just another PvP griefer, the worst kinds.

"Your fun is bad and wrong and mine is good and pure so therefor antagonists should be removed from the game"
"Also I'm not going to actually answer the question because that would point out that yes, I never actually wanted antags to have fun or be part of the game, I just want to remove them"

Good of you to finally show your true colors.

[Level9Drow]

You're the enemy. Nothing more. Just another PvP griefer, the worst kinds.

"Your fun is bad and wrong and mine is good and pure so therefor antagonists should be removed from the game"
"Also I'm not going to actually answer the question because that would point out that yes, I never actually wanted antags to have fun or be part of the game, I just want to remove them"

Good of you to finally show your true colors.

Hypocrite. You are the one saying others should be forced to be your play thing. Stop lying. What a disingenuous fraud.

[Cryptek]

Hypocrite. You are the one saying others should be forced to be your play thing. Stop lying. What a disingenuous fraud.

I'm the fraud? I'm the one playing the game as it is and how it was designed by the developers.
I'm the one offering constructive suggestions that would be good for the health of the game and DOESN'T ruin anyone playing the current games fun (Like making mentor matches immune to Antagonists and capping their difficulty score to allow new players the chance to learn how to play the game, since there aren't many titles that work like spacelords)
I'm the one saying that rewards should be increased to incentivize PVP for both raider and antag.

I am however not the one discrediting other peoples playstyles, saying their fun is wrong, saying my time is more important than theirs.
Neither am I the one suggesting changes that would completely remove certain aspects of the games (and therefor some peoples fun) or the one who thinks it would be great to drastically increase one part of the communities queue time.

[Level9Drow]

Hypocrite. You are the one saying others should be forced to be your play thing. Stop lying. What a disingenuous fraud.

I'm the fraud? I'm the one playing the game as it is and how it was designed by the developers.
I'm the one offering constructive suggestions that would be good for the health of the game and DOESN'T ruin anyone playing the current games fun (Like making mentor matches immune to Antagonists and capping their difficulty score to allow new players the chance to learn how to play the game, since there aren't many titles that work like spacelords)
I'm the one saying that rewards should be increased to incentivize PVP for both raider and antag.

I am however not the one discrediting other peoples playstyles, saying their fun is wrong, saying my time is more important than theirs.
Neither am I the one suggesting changes that would completely remove certain aspects of the games (and therefor some peoples fun) or the one who thinks it would be great to drastically increase one part of the communities queue time.

Bullshit, you'r clearly dancing around the subject, switching the goal post to suit your narrative when you are cornered.

Drag your ass back to what you said, don't ignore it. You said I was f"Your fun is bad and wrong and mine is good...", even though I already stated I had wanted you to play the game the way you enjoyed, with others who wanted the same thing. Then you go on to straight out LIE by adding, "...so therefor antagonists should be removed from the game." Who do you think you're talking to boy? YOU know this is a lie, what do you think you're doing here? You know as well as I that I didn't want it removed from the game you manipulative little....

How DARE you. Stop pretending that you have some legitimate precedent to stand on, you don't.

You are framing others and adding words they never said, you have done more dodging and weaving while picking cherries than a United States politician, which you'd be good at by the way, I recommend the position for you. Shitting on people and lying to them and telling them how they should like it to seems to be up your alley.

Just stop, please. You aren't fooling anyone. Others are offering solutions, you are trying to keep your griefing haven going because actual solutions and good ideas threaten troll PvPers.

[Cryptek]

you are trying to keep your griefing haven going because actual solutions and good ideas threaten troll PvPers.

And here we go again.
Please explain to my poor European mind how you can hold these two opinions at the same time, because that is the real political masterpiece right there:

"I think anyone who plays the PVP in this game for any purpose other than to fight 4 level 200+ navy seals kitted out to murder the antag, is a troll and should be removed and banned from even voicing their opinion"

but at the same hope anyone will take you seriously when you say:

"I dont want to remove antags"


Either you are engaging in some next level psyop and trying to change the definition of words by saying the vast majory of antags who actually play the game and dont just AFK, aren't actually antags. But instead evil trolls who should be banned.

Or you're just really not thinking about what you're saying.

And you still refuse to accept the fact that yes, removing yourself from the pool of raiders to invade IS denying someone else fun, so holding that position means you're putting your own desires above others, because you consider their version of fun inferior to yours.


As I said, you're a bigot.

[Level9Drow]

Dodging and weaving, wow, you're good at it. Cherry picking and re-framing. I didn't even read your post beyond the first sentence. It's non productive and it's just feeding at this point. It's not worth it, you're not worth it. You haven't had anything productive to say for THIS long, and you've been going in circles while dancing out of corners, why would you say anything different at this point. You've already established yourself as Griema Wormtongue at this point, kid. Move on, move on. It's just going to be Ad Hominem at this point.

[Cryptek]

Dodging and weaving, wow, you're good at it. Cherry picking and re-framing. I didn't even read your post beyond the first sentence. It's non productive and it's just feeding at this point. It's not worth it, you're not worth it. You haven't had anything productive to say for THIS long, and you've been going in circles while dancing out of corners, why would you say anything different at this point. You've already established yourself as Griema Wormtongue at this point, kid. Move on, move on. It's just going to be Ad Hominem at this point.

For someone claiming that I'm a troll you sure do love replying, are you secretly being Tsundere for me? I mean you did say you where a very busy man with a job that left them too stressed to deal with antagonists, so is this some sort of strange courtship of yours?

Because throwing shade sure is a great way for you to keep ignoring my questions.

[Tekato]

This guy just keeps going in circles and destroying all his previous arguements on his own to the point where i don't even know what the heck he's going on about now lol.

[ExFiftyOne]

Lol I can always count on this forum to make me chuckle:)  what platform do you play on Cryptek? If its not Steam, I suggest not playing cross plat. Steam players seem to me to be repped by one dude who hates differing opinions... Seems he hates this game too. Still can't figure out why he keeps playing... Unless... He is the real troll. Antags suck to fight sometimes but I'd rather have em once in a while than just npc's all day everyday. This game would be super boring otherwise. I don't post much but I've been loving this gem for bout 7 months or so. Nothing bad to say of the game. Nothing good to say of these forum rants though... Why I stay away. But if we all did that, baby would get his bottle for sure!! I don't reply to crappy people so don't bother with the inevitable toxicity L9D;)

[Level9Drow]

Dodging and weaving, wow, you're good at it. Cherry picking and re-framing. I didn't even read your post beyond the first sentence. It's non productive and it's just feeding at this point. It's not worth it, you're not worth it. You haven't had anything productive to say for THIS long, and you've been going in circles while dancing out of corners, why would you say anything different at this point. You've already established yourself as Griema Wormtongue at this point, kid. Move on, move on. It's just going to be Ad Hominem at this point.

For someone claiming that I'm a troll you sure do love replying, are you secretly being Tsundere for me? I mean you did say you where a very busy man with a job that left them too stressed to deal with antagonists, so is this some sort of strange courtship of yours?

Because throwing shade sure is a great way for you to keep ignoring my questions.

I've already reported the thread. I think it's going to get shut down.

You don't have any interest in the health or future of the game. I have plenty of posts demonstrating my intent and desire to give feedback and improve the game for both PvP and PvE. My integrity is not in question.

Everyone else has stopped feeding. I'm just here to report at this point. By all means, keep going though, *yawn*.

[Cryptek]

Lol I can always count on this forum to make me chuckle:)  what platform do you play on Cryptek? If its not Steam, I suggest not playing cross plat. Steam players seem to me to be repped by one dude who hates differing opinions... Seems he hates this game too. Still can't figure out why he keeps playing... Unless... He is the real troll. Antags suck to fight sometimes but I'd rather have em once in a while than just npc's all day everyday. This game would be super boring otherwise. I don't post much but I've been loving this gem for bout 7 months or so. Nothing bad to say of the game. Nothing good to say of these forum rants though... Why I stay away. But if we all did that, baby would get his bottle for sure!! I don't reply to crappy people so don't bother with the inevitable toxicity L9D;)

It's Steam, crossplay is my only hope because we don't even have a three digit population most days 
And every forum has people like him, luckily I dont really care about someones opinion when they try to invalidate my existence and say I should be banned for playing the game.

[Cryptek]

This guy just keeps going in circles and destroying all his previous arguements on his own to the point where i don't even know what the heck he's going on about now lol.

Hey if you're not just trolling because you dislike antags: I'll offer you something right now if this is getting too confusing for you:

Answer this one question and I will answer anything I might have missed or any new question you have to the best of my ability, no dodging or anything. A direct answer to a direct question for the same.

Edit: Along with just handwaving "oh it'll be fine" to the population problem, if you want me to take you seriously say right now:
On an average day how many matches do you play
and then:
how many of those would you opt into PVP?
how many of those would you opt into if PVP didn't give much more than 20-30% increased rewards (because lets be fair, beating an antag isn't hard, hell I proved it IN THIS THREAD, so they aren't going to give you 100-200% increased rewards for PVP)
Because every single match that you say you'd opt out of PVP: You robbed an antag of the possibility of playing.